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Feedback pls - Custom Work Fees
Sep 3rd, 2010, 1:43pm
 
In an effort to secure a stronger up front commitment from requesting shoppers with our Custom Request process we'd like to get your feedback on the following ideas for a Custom Work Fee:
 
1. GCU would no longer advertise that custom requests are FREE but "may be an additional charge"
2. artists can charge a custom work fee or not based on each request
3. on a request by request basis artists choose among 5 preset fee charges ($5, $10, $15, $25, $50)  
4. artists communicate these charges to the requesting shopper which should be done up front (before work is started) once the scope of the request is understood
5. custom work fees would be IN ADDITION to their card purchase - not a credit towards the final sale
6. GCU will notify artists when the custom fee has been paid (sales notification email)
7. custom work fee will be split 25/75 between GCU & artist and will be reported & paid as usual in quarterly earnings
 
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Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 1:55pm
 
I think what you are suggesting makes sense.  
 
One question - who is getting the bigger cut on the custom fees?  Artist 75 and GCU 25?  Or the other way around?
 
I think it seems reasonable if the artist is getting the larger part of the cut.  After all, it is the artist doing the majority of the work to offer customization, especially if the cards happen to be hand worked.  
 
I like to offer the option only because my designs might not exactly meet the needs of the buyer and if it's a matter of tweaking to suit the person's needs or make it more personal for the buyer, then it only seems right.
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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 2:13pm
 
I think it is a fabulous idea.
I do however agree with Donna on where the majority split should be.
Whilst I understand GCU is hosting us it is the designer doing all the extra work to help bring in that little extra Wink
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Reply #3 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 2:14pm
 
GOOD plan.  Clears up all the mystery of the now somewhat foggy rules.  As a professional commercial artist, there's not a lot of incentive for me to create a custom piece for mere commission.  I think that would clear it up for both the artist and the customer.
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Reply #4 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 2:31pm
 
Clarification on item 7:   Split would be 75% to the artists, and 25% to GCU.  
 
Btw, at this point we don't see the proposed custom fees as a big money making opportunity, rather a method to get more of a commitment from the shopper before artists invest their time.
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Reply #5 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 2:47pm
 
Yes, Nasser, that's correct.  Not a huge money making opportunity, but it is substantially better for the artist than trying to accommodate GCU and the customer with free art/design.
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Reply #6 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 2:53pm
 
It makes a lot of sense - the commitment from the buyer is important. Do you have any suggested guidelines for the artists on reasons for the fee pricing?  For instance - 1) Simple addition such as adding a name to the front - $5.00, etc.  
 
Otherwise I think it all makes sense and would be a good move.
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Reply #7 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 3:02pm
 
Thank you Mindy and Nassar for listening to our whining and giving us a seemingly sound solution.  I'm all for it and think it may solve some of the commitment issue between shopper and artist.  I've noted a few comments/questions below...
 
3. on a request by request basis artists choose among 5 preset fee charges ($5, $10, $15, $25, $50)
 
I like this idea, my only food for thought is perhaps there should be 6 presets, the first being something like $2.50?  For me, most of my cards can have a name added for example very easily and if the shopper was only going to purchase 1, then that probably would be a no charge for me...However something a bit more extensive would be and I don't think adding $5 to a single card should be the only option.  Just something to think about.
 
4. artists communicate these charges to the requesting shopper which should be done up front (before work is started) once the scope of the request is understood
 
Here is where it still is sticky soup for me.  Somewhere, the customer needs to be notified in LARGE PRINT or with an automated message from GCU that states something like "your custom request will be answered by the artist who created the card you have inquired about.  Please note their name and store.  This email will not have a GCU signature, please look for it in your in-box within 24hours."  
 
Otherwise we still have a monster in the room which is customers expect to be contacted with a GCU signature not agent77@myspace.com  Please consider this as part of the solution.  (I made that email up BTW so sorry if it belongs to anyone  Grin)
 
 
I say yippee for your efforts to improve this process and with some slight fine tuning, I look forward to giving it a try since I am someone who offers my customization on my cards.
 
Thanks again folks!
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Reply #8 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 3:09pm
 
Hi Mindy, though I like offering custom cards, I don't think I would like negotiating the price with every customer via email.  I would much prefer a standard list of charges per type of change, shown to the buyer upfront as they start the custom card order.  This way they can decide if they want to proceed with the request and if it is in their budget to continue.  
 
I feel the way you are suggesting, the artists would be doing a lot of "answering questions" about the added cost.  This could result in no sale if the buyer finds the price more than they are willing to pay.  It seems like it would be a lot of unnecessary time wasted answering questions.
 
So my point is have the information upfront with a list of examples.  Then if they are interested, they can proceed with the request.
 
For example,
- If the buyer wants one card with text changed on front of card, it would be this $ amount per card.
- If the buyer wants colors changed in the design, it would cost this $ amount per card.
- etc.
 
Just my two cents.  Smiley
 
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Reply #9 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 3:27pm
 
I find this a very gratifying development, precisely for the obligation to carry through that it will bring. I was also thinking, just as Sandra mentioned, that some standardization and guidelines for the charges would be appropriate.
 
I'd be so happy if we could somehow find a way, at the same time, to do something about the communication problem that was being discussed recently - the difficulties that we encounter when contacting customers (at least initially) independently of GCU.
 
Thank you for your efforts to implement what, to my mind, is a constructive step forward.
 
P.S. Between my starting to write and actually posting, two posts were entered with which I wholeheartedly agree. Thanks again!
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Reply #10 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 3:45pm
 
Wonderful idea. Most of my design changes are minor and don't require a fee for the change. However, I have had a few customers that the card changes were quite extensive and I didn't know how extensive until we got into the job itself. Then, it would have been nice to charge extra for those changes.  
 
I agree with Doreen regarding adding the smaller amount of $2.50. If it is a tiny change...like an age or name, I would probably charge nothing. Anything more involved and I would charge more. ALSO, yes add that the e-mail address will be from the artist....very prominently.
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Reply #11 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 3:48pm
 
I would appreciate this option as opposed to how things are now. I recently received a request to customize a card and took the time to make the alterations immediately after receiving the notice so that I could fast track the card. It has been a couple of weeks now and I still don't know if this will result in a sale.  embarrassed
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Reply #12 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 3:49pm
 
Hi Mindy and Thanks!
I agree with Cheryl.  We should not have to be dickering with the customer over the price.  And every artist should be charging the same for a specific change, or for a start-from-scratch project.
As for the start-from-scratch, we could also have a few steps here where the very simple project would cost less than a more involved project.  The artist could consider the request and then convey to the customer that their request would fall into category A, B or C.  (With the fee for A say $15 and B for $30 and C for $50)
I also think we might consider, at least for the time being, something as simple as a name change (or addition) to remain free of charge.  We want to be careful not to overprice for our everyday customer... At the same time, it would be wonderful to have a system in place where our artists could use their talents to satisfy the needs of a customer who wants something above and beyond and has the wallet to pay for it.
One more thing.  Say a customer comes in wanting an artist to paint a watercolor of fair complexity from scratch.  Say it will be a category C (most expensive.)  When and where is their commitment?  I mean, we still could have the same old problem of the artist spending a lot of time on the project, and then the customer doesn't come through...
Just my thoughts, for now.
Thanks so much Mindy/GCU for opening this avenue for us!  
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Reply #13 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 4:06pm
 
I haven't had any request for customization of my cards, but I'd be more than happy to do so if there was some compensation.  
 
The variable fee structure sounds good to me, but seems like it is going to be confusing unless all artists agree on the same schedule, ie, $5 for a simple one or two word text change, $5 for background color, $5 swapping an image available on another card and so on.  Each item is a change, so if a customer wants a different background, change the petunia to the peach rose, and change the birthday name, then that would be three changes and a $15 service charge.  Also the rate would have to apply to each individual design created.  If a buyer is doing a multiple printing of the same card then only one fee would apply for the change to all cards.  Now if say a customer was changing the cards image and background and name of one card and then wanted to send that same card but with different names, then we may want a $5 fee changing 1-5 names, $10 changing 5-10 names, $15 10-20 names and so on.  
 
Another alternative would be to set up these blocks as custome request options, ie A is $5, B is $10, C is $15... and then have each artist deal with the customer and determine the amount of work for the request and the fee, then when the customer submits the order, the agreed upon optional fee will be added to the card total amount.
   
Still not sure how it will all work.  All I can say is that the GCU staff is more daring than I imagined!  lol
 
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Reply #14 - Sep 3rd, 2010, 4:13pm
 
....and i agree with Sue.  There has to be some kind of committment from the customer upfront, perhaps submitting credit card iformation or something like before the work is done.  All printing shops that I know of require a deposit before they'll start even doing the designing stages of your project.
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