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Be a Local Looney Bird
Oct 10th, 2009, 9:12am
 
OK, I've caught the "Sell Local" bug, and since it's no fun doing things alone, how about anyone who wants to venture out to sell their GCU cards locally get tagged a Looney Bird.  I know some artists like Sandra Rose, Denise Beverly, and Angela Castillo are already successful Looney Birds.  Each have already contributed to this topic and their posts have been most helpful and instructive.  It's also good to note that they sell a lot of cards!!
 
So who will pledge to join the club?  Let's set a goal to each get cards in at least one local shop by the end of the year.  Share your adventures here.  It will be fun!
 
To start off, I've done a quick look at display racks.  I am CLUELESS of what makes the most sense.  Perhaps some of my fellow Lonneys will chime in.
 
http://www.storefixture.com/cat3.asp?ID=24252
 
This one has a good selection of Vertical and Horizontal bays on the same racks:
http://argonautpress.com/displays-greeting-card.html
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Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2009, 9:30am
 
I would love to do this, I went as far as getting a cutter, envelopes a top printer and card, but then boom, no self belief, fear of being rejected plus it does not help when I have acute Agoraphobia and social anxiety syndrome wow what a mess huh, any tips would be so so helpefull I really would like to get my cards out there, but not sure where to start *sigh*
 
Do you just stroll up to a shop or gift shop or well etc etc or do you telephone first?, or post out free samples? Do you offer sale or return or do they purchase? or do you rent a stand in the shop? sooo many scarey things and questiones sorry Smiley
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 10th, 2009, 4:25pm
 
Hi Mooney,
 
    Start with your local Art Guilds, then if you have some small tourist areas in your town, they may be willing to try them on consignment.  For every 10 no's, you usually get at least one yes.   I usually just walk in and hope to see the owner, as I have sent samples, and written letters to tons of shops with no luck at all, I have better luck if I just walk in.  At least that has been my experience with local sales.   Look at it this way, if they say no, it has nothing to do with you as a person, they may just not have the money, or their sales have been very bad lately.     rosiecards
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Reply #3 - Oct 10th, 2009, 8:52pm
 
In the past, having been associated with many non-profit groups that always need to raise cash, I thought to create several photographic images of the local area that could be presented to non-profits as a fund raiser.  How many groups sell candles, pizzas, wrapping paper, cookies, popcorn and the like?  Why not gather, say a dozen images/cards together and approach the group for them to sell.  They would get to choose say four or five cards out of the dozen for their custom assortment.  Maybe, one exclusive card of their building to go into the mix.  The cards would be pre-sold then assembled in bags or boxes for delivery to the group.  Think of the groups out there who need funds.  Parent teacher assoc, bands, teams, churches, ethnic, arts, cultural, volunteer fire companies, historical societies, animal shelters and on and on.  What do you all think?  We could brainstorm forms and marketing materials right here among us.
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Reply #4 - Oct 11th, 2009, 6:47am
 
I walk in with samples, I try to go in on a Monday afternoon when the business is slow. I reccomend asking for the owner or manager. Try thinking outside the box. Perhaps a florist or bakery, somewhere that people need cards, but doesn't nessecarily already sell cards.
Those display racks are really nice, Tom.
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Reply #5 - Oct 11th, 2009, 8:12am
 
Quote from Tom_133317 on Oct 10th, 2009, 9:12am:
OK, I've caught the "Sell Local" bug, and since it's no fun doing things alone, how about anyone who wants to venture out to sell their GCU cards locally get tagged a Looney Bird...

To start off, I've done a quick look at display racks.  I am CLUELESS of what makes the most sense.  Perhaps some of my fellow Lonneys will chime in.

http://www.storefixture.com/cat3.asp?ID=24252

This one has a good selection of Vertical and Horizontal bays on the same racks:
http://argonautpress.com/displays-greeting-card.html

 
Tom before you go off purchasing a NEW rack, have you looked of a used one?  I did a search on my local cl and found this < http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/art/1405681153.html >
 
I am not sure the cost of a new unit but this used unit is probably negotiable.
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Reply #6 - Oct 11th, 2009, 8:29am
 
Well, better men than you, Tom, have called me looney! Count me in. I've been selling locally since June and here is what I've learned.
 
I work one day a week in a local gift shop in lieu of leasing space, as some artisans at the shop do. I also do the marketing for the shop. My experience from seeing other artists approach the shop to sell their merchandise:
 
1. Make an appointment. Others may have had success with cold calls, but store owners don't view this as a professional approach. Their time is valuable and they appreciate artists recognizing that.
 
2. Bring in more than one sample and package the cards in plastic jackets.
 
3. Be open to suggestions. No one is criticizing your work, but the shop owner knows what sells. He/she also knows what lines of merchandise they already have. If the shop already has a local artist making cards of local scenes, they may not be interested in your card now. Leave your business card and check back. Artists are always leaving stores and store owners then have to look for replacements.
 
4. If you have a local following, be sure to let the shop owner know. They will see this as an increase in traffic.
 
5. If the shop is buying your cards outright, be sure to let the shop owner know when you have new cards that fit your niche in that store. Even if you've given them your shop URL, don't count on them to check it out.
 
6. If your cards are at the store on commission or other such arrangement, be sure to have a starting inventory sheet and keep it current. Be sure you freshen up the merchandise at least once a month. Have your cards up at least a month before a major holiday. Be aware that your most popular cards on-line don't necessarily translate to local sales. Present a broad assortment, but not necessarily deep, ie have Mother's Day cards with a variety of card front images, but don't represent all relationships as you are able to in your on-line store. That would be a large investment for an artist and may not translate into more sales.
 
7. Show your face at the shop periodically. And it wouldn't hurt to buy something once in a while!
 
8. Make sure everyone you come into contact with knows that you sell at the shop. And when friends/family shop at that store, have them say that they're there because you told them about the store. The owner can then see that you're building their traffic.
 
9 Marketing: Use Kijii. Put a photo of your new merchandise on Facebook and let people know that they can buy it locally. Participate in local non-profit auctions.
 
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Reply #7 - Oct 11th, 2009, 9:10am
 
Good posts Looney Birds!  Pattiann ... brilliant! (I printed that one out!)
 
As I prepare for my walking marketing tour to local shops, one thought I had was to make 4"x6" photos of many of my card fronts as these are only 10-cents each at the local Walgreens or Snyder drugs stores.  Sure beats paying nearly $2 for the real cards.  I'll put them in a binder to show the depth of my offerings (all the holidays, relationships, and so forth) as well as have on hand about a dozen of my best real GCU cards to show.  
 
I likely will hold off on racks (none shown in my local Craig List -- but good thought Damyon) until I find an opportunity.  Some stored may already have rack or wall-shelf space.
 
I do like the idea of adding cards in a place like a bakery or a barber shop that likely has the space and the traffic ... great idea!  I know my local copy center also sells greeting cards, so there are plenty of untried locations.
 
I'm feeling LOONEY people!
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Reply #8 - Oct 12th, 2009, 2:09am
 
Well, as mentioned, Walgreens has 4x6 prints on sale now for 10-cents each for qty>50.  Just go to their site and enter their promo code (EVERYLAST), good thru the 17th.
 
BUT - since our card fronts are 5x7(1500x2100), they will not print fully as is; they need to be resized to 4x6 (1200x1800) otherwise they will get cropped (not good).  
 
A slick free tool to do resizing is FastStone (at FastStone.org).  I copied my target 50 images to a new folder then had FastStone resize them in batch mode to 1200x1800.  It took only about 2 minutes to do them all.  I then did a bulk upload to Walgreens, also very fast, about 3 minutes, and then placed an order for 1-each ($5+tax).  Had them in an hour and they came out great!
 
It makes a nice sample collection of images to show in addition to the real cards.  I'll placed them in 4x6 photo holders like these:
 
6 images per side:
http://tiny.cc/ztlMl
 
4 images per side plus one real card/envelope (Slick!):
http://tiny.cc/3sm8U
 
Roughly 35-cents/sheet, so for 50 images you'll need no more than 5-7 sheets.  I will organize mine by category (Birthday, Anniversary, Holiday, Love/Romance, General Humor, and "custom").  Easy to show that way.
 
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FYI:  On the resizing, be aware that the aspect ratio of a 5x7 is 0.71 vs. .66 for a 4x6, so there will be a slight stretch lengthwise.  On mine it wasn't a problem.
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Reply #9 - Oct 12th, 2009, 3:11am
 
Another Looney idea is to do a photo book.  At Walgreens (and other places) they are as low as $10 for a 20 page book and 1-hour processing.  Their 5x7 book can be up to 75 pages.  What's nice is that you can type in the inside verse under the image, or, at Walgreens you can add a caption with each photo you upload that can be used automatically as the inside verse under the book image (slick!).  You can build the book straight from your 5x7 images in most cases;  no need to resize.  A few sample pages:
 
http://i38.tinypic.com/11khaad.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2m7aqvp.jpg
 
Each page can be custom formatted on most sites, and various photo book sizes and styles are available out there.
 
It takes more time but it could be a way to build a nice looking "short" catalog to show your work to store owners and maybe even leave a copy.  You can also add to it later and reorganize it as needed before printing other copies.  Lots of possibilities with this Looney idea.
 
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Reply #10 - Oct 12th, 2009, 8:22am
 
I've often thought of doing this...but don't really know where to start! These suggestions are great. I'm feeling less than confident, however, since I've only sold 4 cards here at GCU (2 were the same card).  Do the local sales do better than the online sales? I'm beginning to think I'm the only one who likes my cards....LOL...and my mom, but you know how that is! Mom is always the biggest fan! I also only have about 50 cards so far...I'm still wondering how the people uploading batches get them done so fast! But it seems my posts don't get answered anymore....I must be asking too many things that have already been asked, I dunno!
Hope all the Looney Birds do well! I might get brave and join in!
 
Oh, just to throw out there, my mom and I had the idea of doing "card parties"...especially around the holidays. Kind of like the tupperware parties, home decor parties, wine tasting parties, etc. Why not card parties?  People can place orders and even personalize their text and have the order within the week, maybe? Any thoughts?
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Reply #11 - Oct 12th, 2009, 9:08am
 
Hi Rhonda ...
 
Good to hear from you.  I feel your pain on sales.  Though I do relatively well I'm finding that adding more designs is not helping, and it may be best to drive my own sales now.  This Looney Bird approach and even some direct custom bulk sales of Holiday Thank you cards for local businesses is my next plan.
 
The card party idea is an interesting one, but key will be to have a nice catalog of cards to pass around that has the full outside and inside images.  Frankly, this catalog could include cards from other artists, as GCU cards costs us the same ($1.78/card at qty 49 as mentioned).  Clearly, we'd like to showcase our own work, but sometimes some variety helps prime the pump.  
 
Making a catalog is something I'm looking into, and the photo book is one option if the number of offerings is relatively small.  
 
As for your card batch question, I know I do try to take a good common image and exploit it to as many categories as I can.  Like this dude which I have in about 50 categories:
 
http://artist.greetingcarduniverse.com/community/viewdetails.asp?pid=438739
 
I do this by tweaking the front verse with a new relationship, age, or category and resaving the file under a new name.  I can create several a minute this way and then I upload a full set and work my way through the GCU card creation process.  It also helps to keep the inside verse the same from card-to-card in a series SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO RETYPE IT, such as Birthday/relationships.  Then in the Create Card process all you DO IS pick is the next relationship image you uploaded, tweak the card title and keywords, and it gets done in less than a minute a card.
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Reply #12 - Oct 12th, 2009, 9:17am
 
Thanks Tom! I guess that makes sense (on how to do more cards so quickly). I guess I'm putting so much thought into trying to be original, I'm overlooking some simple common sense things. I guess I should go back to the cards I've made and see how many different categories I can get them in!
 
If I did pursue card party thing, I'd be happy to include some other artists for variety, especially since I don't have that many cards yet.  Yours are actually my favorites...I'm drawn to that kind of humor! In fact I've thought of a few myself that would be similar to yours, but I don't want to be a copy cat  Grin....I do love your cards!  
I also thought on the card party thing it would be helpful to make up an order form with all the cards listed, a place for personalizing, etc, to make the order process more streamlined. It would take some work to get it going, but I think it could be profitable. That same order form could possibly be useful for selling to local stores, or possibly as a "reorder" form.  Just some thoughts!
 
Thanks, Tom, for taking time to explain things. You are so helpful and always so kind!
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Reply #13 - Oct 12th, 2009, 9:24am
 
Quote from Rhonda__137417 on Oct 12th, 2009, 9:17am:
I also thought on the card party thing it would be helpful to make up an order form with all the cards listed, a place for personalizing, etc, to make the order process more streamlined.

Now that is BRILLIANT, since you can very quickly customize each card verse during the purchase process.  LOVE IT!
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Reply #14 - Oct 12th, 2009, 11:25am
 
Quote from Tom_133317 on Oct 12th, 2009, 3:11am:
Another Looney idea is to do a photo book.  At Walgreens (and other places) they are as low as $10 for a 20 page book and 1-hour processing.  Their 5x7 book can be up to 75 pages.  What's nice is that you can type in the inside verse under the image, or, at Walgreens you can add a caption with each photo you upload that can be used automatically as the inside verse under the book image (slick!).  You can build the book straight from your 5x7 images in most cases;  no need to resize.  A few sample pages:

http://i38.tinypic.com/11khaad.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2m7aqvp.jpg

Each page can be custom formatted on most sites, and various photo book sizes and styles are available out there.

It takes more time but it could be a way to build a nice looking "short" catalog to show your work to store owners and maybe even leave a copy.  You can also add to it later and reorganize it as needed before printing other copies.  Lots of possibilities with this Looney idea.

Thoughts?

 
 
Great idea Tom.  My main business is custom photo books and I create and print them through http://www.blurb.com/
 
A soft cover 5x8 book is $4.95.  They have some basic layouts and a program to download that works well with a mac.  Printing is terrific on this site.
 
Just thought I'd share.
 
Thanks for all the good ideas and info!
 
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