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Selling card to retail Stores
Sep 23rd, 2011, 9:16am
 
I was wondering if GCU has a program for repping our own cards to retail stores.... all we have to do is order at our expense 1 each of our own designs and rep them at retail stores...we just take orders and send them to you with there credit card information......
Retail shops usually purchase card designs in 6 or 12 per design and usually there is always a minimum order of $100 or more. Cards would wholesale at $1.50 and the retail shops sell at $3.00.. Of course the $3.00 price would have to go on the back of the cards that are sold to any store...and as far and getting your payment you can keep mininum order at $100 or more and always take credit card payment before you ship...
I think this is a great idea and you could get a lot of orders from each shop owner here on GCU..I know this is an online store, but it would be great to expand to those who do not have a computer..
 Just a thought.. Smiley
 
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Reply #1 - Sep 23rd, 2011, 11:04am
 
Love the idea
Its IMPORTANT to get into the real world & real stores selling cards every day
 
Valxart love to offer introduction card packs to stores if we had a way to do it  
 but still over 20K of our GCU-Zazzle 99.5% are UNSEEN
 
We have purchased and given away over 400 of our own cards to promote Valxart name but i do not have a list of sites knowledgable of GCU and ran out of places worth sending to.
 
Even if i had addresses, i would send them Valxart cards to stores as sample packs at reduced rates -  
I want long term happy buyers but must be seen and sitting on a drive unseen waste all the time I put in already. Stores have edge since you can walk by and see
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Reply #2 - Sep 26th, 2011, 9:11am
 
Hi Mindy, I was wondering if it's possible that store owners are able to sell there cards to retail stores..?  Smiley
 
Thanks ,  
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 7th, 2011, 3:11pm
 
I would really like to have this option also--I have had a couple of people recently approach me about carrying my products and I'd like to focus on cards. Any chance there is GCU discussion about Donna's idea?  Smiley
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Re: Selling card to retail Stores GREAT IDEA
Reply #4 - Oct 7th, 2011, 3:25pm
 
we have purchased over 400 of our cards as samples and would buy more if we could have them sent retail stores who are GCU customers as samples.  we stopped buying cards because we did not have any retail stores to send samples to and we still have hundreds in stock .
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Reply #5 - Oct 7th, 2011, 6:20pm
 
Hi Sharon and David,
It would be nice if someone from GCU would let us know if we could do this somehow, and we would receive the same royalties..It would be great to sell our cards to stores..Well hopefully someone at GCU will let us know.
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 7th, 2011, 6:48pm
 
I guess I don't get what you are asking for from GCU that they don't already provide.
 
GCU already provides everything necessary for you to do this.  I've been in business where I had to take orders and process them offline from outside sources and that was a nightmare just for my own small gallery, I can't imagine GCU being in a position to take this on, the paperwork and tracking alone would be difficult - in fact most credit card systems require a whole separate procedure, paperwork and charges to handle this 'offline' ordering.
 
GCU already offers major bulk pricing which is the equivalent of wholesale in large orders.  They offer shipping directly to card store.  We also know that many stores already fill their card racks with our cards because we are part of large orders of 1000's at a time.
 
All you have to do is work with the system from your end as many artists already do.  You either sit with a store and walk them through the online process - or you buy and sell them your cards.  GCU from what I've seen, already does this and we all see the results in being part of bulk orders.  So I'm not sure what more you could ask of them.
 
Maybe I'm missing something though, that's just the way I interpret what you are asking  Grin
 
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Reply #7 - Oct 7th, 2011, 6:59pm
 
I appreciate someone taking the time to explain the process-that actually helps a lot for someone not familiar with that process. So the bar code that has to go on the back of the card can be applied separately? Doesn't need to be printed on?  
 
There is a big difference, speaking only for myself here, between experience levels of the artists who contribute here. Some have been doing this for years and working with retailers etc and many have not, myself included. Bridging the knowledge gap is extremely helpful and i appreciate your outlining all of it. Didn't actually realize I was asking for something redundant Sad
 
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Reply #8 - Oct 7th, 2011, 8:08pm
 
Quote from Sharon_131320 on Oct 7th, 2011, 6:59pm:
I appreciate someone taking the time to explain the process-that actually helps a lot for someone not familiar with that process. So the bar code that has to go on the back of the card can be applied separately? Doesn't need to be printed on?

There is a big difference, speaking only for myself here, between experience levels of the artists who contribute here. Some have been doing this for years and working with retailers etc and many have not, myself included. Bridging the knowledge gap is extremely helpful and i appreciate your outlining all of it. Didn't actually realize I was asking for something redundant Sad

thanks Smiley

 
Sharon, no one here was asking anything redundant and I apologize if my discussion led you to believe the questions were not valid  lips sealed
 
I didn't see anyone here mention anything about the bar codes and that is actually a valid question that GCU may provide some insight on which might be useful for selling offsite.
 
As I stated, I interpreted this discussion to be fairly vague . . . so your idea is indeed a valid one Smiley I do think however from my 'previous life' that bar-codes are unique to each individual store.  So for example if Walmart bought our cards at GCU, the bar-code on the back is unique to GCU, however a large company that size may choose to enter those bar-codes into their system rather than repacking them with Walmart bar-codes.  
 
It does give food for thought me thinks  Grin
 
 
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Reply #9 - Oct 7th, 2011, 8:32pm
 
Hi Doreen,
You know thats a better idea.... All I have to do is get orders for my cards, I buy them, I pay GCU for them and then I collect a payment from the retail store and GCU doesn't have any extra paper work....
 I do notice that some stores already buy GCU cards in bulk...which is so great.
Thanks for letting me know...
 
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Reply #10 - Oct 7th, 2011, 8:37pm
 
Quote from Donna_156115 on Oct 7th, 2011, 8:32pm:
Hi Doreen,
You know thats a better idea.... All I have to do is get orders for my cards, I buy them, I pay GCU for them and then I collect a payment from the retail store and GCU doesn't have any extra paper work....
I do notice that some stores already buy GCU cards in bulk...which is so great.
Thanks for letting me know...

Donna Collins

 
Glad this works for you Donna Smiley  It is the simplest way for everyone I think and you can always have the order sent to your store customer so you don't have to do delivery!  Lots of artists go this route, we are after all the ones who have to do the leg work to peddle our own wares so to speak  Grin
 
Good luck with your new sales!
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Reply #11 - Oct 7th, 2011, 9:39pm
 
Sharon, no one here was asking anything redundant and I apologize if my discussion led you to believe the questions were not valid  lips sealed
 
I didn't see anyone here mention anything about the bar codes and that is actually a valid question that GCU may provide some insight on which might be useful for selling offsite.
 
As I stated, I interpreted this discussion to be fairly vague . . . so your idea is indeed a valid one Smiley I do think however from my 'previous life' that bar-codes are unique to each individual store.  So for example if Walmart bought our cards at GCU, the bar-code on the back is unique to GCU, however a large company that size may choose to enter those bar-codes into their system rather than repacking them with Walmart bar-codes.  
 
It does give food for thought me thinks  Grin
 
 
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Doreen--I just had a moment of embarassment about how much I don't know Smiley I'm reading books and reading the community blog and trying to put all the information to use in my work and appreciating, a great deal, all of the help offered on GCU. Thanks, really Smiley  
 
I did go find a lot of info about bar codes, UPC and the supplementary codes for each design. And that you can buy labels. Now I know more than I did! Grin
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Reply #12 - Oct 8th, 2011, 2:51am
 
ok now here comes the REAL dummy Tongue
 
perhaps this is a different thread or already discussed, but what is the proper way to approach retail stores with your cards?  Just walk in and ask to see a manager with a "portfolio" of samples?  How does one set up a proper portfolio when doing so?  Gosh, I feel so dumb!
 
Is it like an interview where you bring your resume, letters of reference, and your transcripts from college and dress in your best outfit?  What I really wish I could have would be letters of feedback from people who bought my cards (satisfied customers - word of mouth/word by the pen can go a long way I'm sure).  Are there websites of reference one could read?  Which ones give reliable current information?
 
hit me with the wet noodle!
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Reply #13 - Oct 8th, 2011, 7:53am
 
Quote from Donna_137698 on Oct 8th, 2011, 2:51am:
ok now here comes the REAL dummy Tongue

perhaps this is a different thread or already discussed, but what is the proper way to approach retail stores with your cards?  Just walk in and ask to see a manager with a "portfolio" of samples?  How does one set up a proper portfolio when doing so?  Gosh, I feel so dumb!

Is it like an interview where you bring your resume, letters of reference, and your transcripts from college and dress in your best outfit?  What I really wish I could have would be letters of feedback from people who bought my cards (satisfied customers - word of mouth/word by the pen can go a long way I'm sure).  Are there websites of reference one could read?  Which ones give reliable current information?

hit me with the wet noodle!

 
Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be Donna . . .
 
Approaching stores with person to person only works for those who are comfortable with strangers and starting conversations; and those who are confident in what they are selling, i.e., great salespersons.
 
Anyone who is not this type of person will probably not have a tremendous amount of luck with this approach.  Stores know at first glance whether they are interested in selling your cards or not and it's really more about whether you did your homework before approaching and whether they LIKE you or not; so here are some tips:
 
1)  Visit the store(s) as a customer a couple of times, make a small purchase if you can.  Compliment them on something about the store.
 
2)  Pay VERY CLOSE attention to whether any or all of your cards even fit what the store carries.  If this is a store which sells only New Age cards and gifts, don't bother if you do not have any of that type of card to offer.  So only approach those stores with specific cards of yours which you think make a good fit for their store.  To do otherwise is wasting their time and you'll never have a second chance.
 
3)  Once you've (a) established that you have cards which fit the store and (b) have made yourself 'seen' a couple of times in the store, bring in a nice little packet you put together which includes;
      
     * A couple of sample cards which suit their store
     * Make up a brochure or rack card with the important features of why they should buy your cards such as; bulk pricing, variety, quality and so on. Include nice visuals of a few more cards.
     * Your business card with contact info.
     *  Include a VERY SHORT letter to initiate contact something like. . . "Dear Margret - I have so enjoyed my visits to your lovely shop and on my last visit it dawned on my that I have some greeting cards which might just fit perfectly into your offerings, so I decided to drop a sample off." ...blah, blah
 
    Leave this packet in a manilla envelope with the store owner/managers name (which you should already know after visiting the store a couple times) the next time you go in.  KEEP IT SHORT!
 
4)  After a couple of weeks, call to see if they are interested in getting together to see more samples.
 
Be prepaid to answer the question:  Do you provide the card rack?  
 
The rest is a matter of how diligent you want to be; there is a reason people who go 'door to door' are called salesmen!  They are good at getting people to open up and want the product they are peddling.  In general, artists are not good at that, so don't be discouraged if this approach is cumbersome and uncomfortable at first . . . you'll get better at it.
 
5)  DO NOT EVER send, email, post on a blog, or in anyway make contact with anyone for the purpose of promotion/sales if there is absolutely no direct connection with what they offer and your cards  . . . this would be considered spam - whether in person or on the internet.  
 
Good luck . . . it's really just find a way to become a good salesperson.  If you were trying to get into a gallery for a show, then yes; resume (Artist's resume not employment resume), portfolio and so on would be required . . . but again cards are not art, they are a product with heavy competition in a saturated market.
 
Did that help at all?  Grin
 
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Reply #14 - Oct 8th, 2011, 8:42am
 
oh gosh, Doreen!  You really are the best!  
 
I guess I best put my teacher skills into play then!  I've never been one for tooting my own horn but yup, can see how all you mention can make or break a possible deal.
 
I thank you for taking the time to lay it all out... much appreciated!  I've got some work to do.  Hum... perhaps mom could visit the manager of her fave card shop - she's ALWAYS there - well, at least until I really started in on doing cards LOL
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