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Mary__137064
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New Card Critique Service
Mar 19th, 2010, 11:04am
 
Hello fellow artists and newbies!
 
Today I would like to announce the beginning of a new service for any and all GCU card artists.
Like many of us, I find it hard to be clear about how my own cards look.  Fortunately I have a  
couple of people to advise me, but sometimes I think they are just being nice.  I rather face the
truth and correct any issues than be told it's fine work when it's lacking.  
 
Recently, I have really cracked down on myself and I think my new cards show it.  I have also gone
back and spruced up some of the earlier ones, too.  It feels good and I recommend it highly.
 
But, if you don't have the time or the inclination, and are like me, want the real, but gently put truth,
then my service is for you.  First, I should say that I have a lifetime of professional and otherwise  
background in art, as a teacher to both children and seniors, and as a student of classical and modern art as well.  There are a  few styles I just don't like, and if you do that, I'll refuse to critique your work
because I may not be objective enough and I will tell you why.  
 
But, if you want my service, it will cost only $3.00 per card or 3 cards for $8.00.  I will not do more than three cards for any artist in one month period.  That's it.  
 
We will use Paypal for all payments upfront, and you can email me with your cards atttached.
 
Thank you for your consideration.
 
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 19th, 2010, 1:47pm
 
Dear Bright,
Although I commend your entrepreneurial spirit, this seems wrong to me on many levels.
 
You needn't like a style to critique a card for it's attributes or ways of improvement, however, it is not your refusal to critique the 'few' styles you do not like that I have issue with. I'm surprised you would charge fellow GCU artists $3 per card to do so. Gee, then the artist only needs to sell 6 - 10 of that card (depending on commission amount) to be at the break even point. I'm not suggesting your time is not worth a wage but with nearly 4,000 artists on GCU, not to forget GCU's competent reviewers who are quite apt at catching design faux pas or otherwise, I would think anyone who is 'like you' and 'would like the real but gently put truth' (as you put it), could reach out to GCU's community in one of the forums and get critiqued constructively without sugar coat for free. It's called pay it forward with one deed leading to another for the betterment and well-being of all GCU artists.
 
If artists choose to pay you for your service, then rightly, Tom Rent, Corrie and the likes should be getting a salary from GCU artists too. That said, it's really not any of my business and I wish you well with your new service.
 
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Reply #2 - Mar 19th, 2010, 2:17pm
 
Thanks, Lisa!
 
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Reply #3 - Mar 19th, 2010, 4:42pm
 
If there's a market for this type of service, then it's a good idea.  I think if the traffic was higher, I.e. a card or store had lots of traffic and clicks, but a low purchase rate, then there'd be reason to start questioning content quality.  Otherwise, I've found it handy to contact a few artists and ask if they'd be willing to give constructive feedback.  All have welcomed the idea and I provide the same for them when they ask.  
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Reply #4 - Mar 19th, 2010, 6:20pm
 
WOW I'm kind of taken aback by this. I'm with Lisa. why would anyone pay $3.00 a card ... we sell them for $2.79 ... to have a card critiqued by a fellow artist, for money?? I personally think this kind of solicitation on our forum should not be allowed! We have so, so many wonderful fellow artists who will gladly have a look at a card or cards in your card shop and give you an honest opinion ... FREE OF CHARGE! I also agree with Lisa on leaving the critiquing to our most qualified reviewers!
 
Sorry Mary. Don't mean to step on your enterprise, but I do not agree with it.
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Reply #5 - Mar 19th, 2010, 9:34pm
 
First of all, I did ask and tell GCU staff and Tom Rent that I was going to make the offering last week.
 
Second of all, I didn't really think I would be making a career out of this offering. If I made $50 per year, I would be surprised.  The small charge is just to separate out the serious artists from the
people that want endless help.  I could just work on my cards and not help anyone at all.  Value lost, I think.  I am a very good teacher and I like to share my knowledge, but I know better than to give it all away. There should be an exchange of energy.
 
Thirdly, my reasoning was based on the fact that some card artists could use some direction
and thereby raise up all of us.  Mostly everyone could use improvement.  I know I do and when I  
asked for honest opinion, I received a lot of compliments...no constructive criticism though.
 
Fourthly, people who are serious about becoming good at their art will pay hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars towards their further education.  I, myself, have recently taken $400 and $600 dollar art classes to keep up to date and freshen my eye and attitude.  $3 is just a tiny investment that can buy information that can turn a person's sales up faster than trial and error over months and months.
 
Fifthly, what people call honest opinion is usually encouragement, which is great and certainly has it's place, but it's dishonest to mislead people to the degree that no one ever tells them, 'you know that
color is really off', or' I don't get how you are showing your intent with this image', and more causing them to waste a lot of time on cards that really need improving.  
 
You may say cards are sold that are not to everyone's liking, but if you look at the cards that do sell, most are very nicely done according to the basic rules of design that are long established.
 
Good day or evening!
 
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Reply #6 - Mar 20th, 2010, 7:16am
 
Quote from Mary__137064 on Mar 19th, 2010, 9:34pm:


certainly has it's place,

 
 
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Reply #7 - Mar 20th, 2010, 7:28am
 
I don't think there's reason for so much concern about this, and I really don't see any reason to place some sort of ban on this type of offering.
 
It's simply offering a service in exchange for compensation.  Individuals can judge whether it's valuable or not and chose to use it, or not.  No harm done.
 
Ideas live or die based on merit, not support or objection.
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Reply #8 - Mar 20th, 2010, 7:33am
 
Thanks for the correction, Joan!  This is why I am not going to edit text, I will only critique images and lightly go over the meaning of the text.  I am not an English major and don't pretend to be one and I am not trying to put GCU readers out of a job.  They are too precious to us all!
 
I have put together a set of eight points to consider when I do the card image critique and twenty talking points within those eight.  A quick overview of the text would be included as to how it relates to the image. A service like this would go for $50 and more in the real world.
 
 
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Reply #9 - Mar 20th, 2010, 7:38am
 
Thank you, Mel.  Your words ring true to my ears and you have just earned your self a free card critique
which you may use for yourself or a pal.
 
 
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Reply #10 - Mar 20th, 2010, 11:49am
 
With respect, what qualifies you to critique the cards of others, let alone ask $3 for doing so?
 
May we see your monthly sales figures? Surely a reasonable request if we are expected to invest our $ into what is basically your opinion and self proclaimed expertese.
 
What is to say that your suggestions are any better than a design shown to you by a talented artist who is merely unconfident and has a marketing problem?  
 
Why would your paid for service prove more useful than the free opinion of those already proven on here, many of whom I am sure are more than happy to offer objectivity when asked to honestly do so.
 
Now, I'm no card designer, nor do I aspire to be, but look around. Natural talent, common sense, hard work and dedication are the key to success and card sales inevitably sort the wheat from the chaff, cruel as that may sound, it is true.  
 
A large proportion on here are in the same boat, hoping for higher sales. Surely there is enough success and talent available to help one another without ego's being so large as to expect payment for showing support to those less experienced. Or has everyone forgotten how they started?
 
I really doubt it is what you intended, but what you are suggesting, smacks of exploiting the naive and inexperienced who are desperate for their first sales. I really don't see how giving you $8 a month to review 3 cards is going to help, what about the other 1000's of cards they will have to submit in order to stand any chance of making a living? You are inadvertantly asking people to give you money for hope.
 
This may be a controversial opinion, but I thought these forums were to support one another whilst making money from card sales, not making money out of fellow artists, the struggling ones at that.
 
Lastly, being a teacher doesn't automatically mean you are right or in a position to judge the work of others who are not bound by the constraints and pre-concieved ideals of your classroom, let alone charge for doing so.  
 
But then, that's all just my opinion. My wife though, who does relatively well on GCU/Zazzle and Red Bubble had a pretty negative reaction to your suggestion and I'd wager she is not alone. You have come across as rather opportunistic and condescending in a community that is generally a more supportive and encouraging environment.
 
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Reply #11 - Mar 20th, 2010, 7:04pm
 
Well, Roger and everyone, I have already talked to a person who is interested in my service.
 
This service is not for every month.  It is a one at a time charge of $3 per card or 3 cards for $8.
The service covers all sorts of information at a college level that can carry over to all the artists
future creations.  If the artist does not like my ideas and has learned nothing and will not use the
information I gave, then they can get their money back from Paypal who acts as a holding company.
 
I am really amazed at how hard people came down on me for the smallest possible gain.  I see a need
for a service and I am filling it.  Your free advice does not go far enough to help people see some of  
their most outstanding errors.
 
Furthermore, years of teaching, years of working my art, years of talking to people and selling and  
auctioning off my art lets me know I am qualified to make this offer of service.  The fourteen or so
GCU testimonies on my store front, the quality of my cards, and the many reviews of my cards also
are there for anyone to see.  If there are constructive criticisms of my cards, I welcome them.
 
I am a very ill woman and I cannot really endure a whole lot of stress about this, so I would appreciate
a bit of consideration for my efforts.  This is my last post on the matter.
 
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