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Harry_132595
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May 14th, 2009, 12:13pm
 
This is where we are supposed to let you know how you are doing ... soooo
 
Saw a Mother's Day I sent this past weekend.  The quality is not nearly as nice as when I first started here in 2007 or the 9 test cards I got in early December 2008 that were very nicely done.  
 
So the card quality is still hit and miss ... my orders have been mostly miss for a year now.
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Reply #1 - May 14th, 2009, 12:30pm
 
I'm sorry to hear that, Harry.  What kind of problems are you having?  Have you ordered the same card twice and gotten differing results?  I just started in late March so I don't have much experience, but I have ordered 36 of my own cards (yes, I'm one of my own best customers....) I thought the printing quality was excellent and others have said so, too.  I made some changes when I saw how the design translated in print, but it was my problem, not GCU's.  Are there types of problems we should look out for?
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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2009, 12:36pm
 
Quote from Harry_132595 on May 14th, 2009, 12:13pm:
This is where we are supposed to let you know how you are doing ... soooo

Saw a Mother's Day I sent this past weekend.  The quality is not nearly as nice as when I first started here in 2007 or the 9 test cards I got in early December 2008 that were very nicely done.  

So the card quality is still hit and miss ... my orders have been mostly miss for a year now.    

 
Please be specific on what quality issues you have noticed on this order and include an order id#.
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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2009, 4:04pm
 
I wasn't going to say anything, but my mother's day order was terrible cry---color--------finishing [the fold was crooked--white showed bottom and side from back page, edges were damaged,------disaster------one of them was my wife's mother's day card.  She is a forgiving person though Wink
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Reply #4 - May 14th, 2009, 4:39pm
 
Wow! I hope that is not the norm.  I haven't ordered any of my own cards yet.  Think I'll wait a bit to get this problem solved.
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Reply #5 - May 14th, 2009, 5:32pm
 
Quote from Mindy on May 14th, 2009, 12:36pm:
Quote from Harry_132595 on May 14th, 2009, 12:13pm:
This is where we are supposed to let you know how you are doing ... soooo

Saw a Mother's Day I sent this past weekend.  The quality is not nearly as nice as when I first started here in 2007 or the 9 test cards I got in early December 2008 that were very nicely done.  

So the card quality is still hit and miss ... my orders have been mostly miss for a year now.    


Please be specific on what quality issues you have noticed on this order and include an order id#.

 
 
No need to be specific Mindy ... the same exact issues I was specific about in December.
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Reply #6 - May 14th, 2009, 7:24pm
 
I hate to say this; but, unfortunately Harry is right.  I have two of the same exact of my cards in my hands -- one is blurry and out of focus and the other is good quality.
 
Even worse, one time I sent my Mom a card, she actually received a totally blank WHITE card -- absolutely NOTHING on it.  It did get a free replacement card -- but, how embarrassing.  As a direct provider of my artwork, I need to put my trust into GCU's quality.  If a bad card is delivered, I have just lost a customer -- probably for life.  Unfortunately, so has every artist on this site.  Put yourself in the shoes of that customer -- you trust an internet company -- you pay for a card -- you wait for it to come and then BUST -- it's horrible.  Would you order from that company again?  Every bad card that goes out hurts ALL of us -- the artists, the admins -- they put us all in jeopardy.
 
I'm not making these comments to whine -- I don't believe in pointing fingers.  As a matter of fact, GCU's admin's have been the best I've ever dealt with -- but, they are not controlling quality.
 
These are the types of quality control issues that should be routine.  How can you miss a completely blank card?  How can you send something out of focus -- unless NO ONE is checking?  Please GCU, we are putting our trust in you -- please find a way to make quality something none of us should ever have to talk about again.
 
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Reply #7 - May 14th, 2009, 7:55pm
 
As I wrote earlier, I've had great results so far, but these reports are worrisome. I haven't told that many people about my cards yet.  The last batch I ordered did come with labels that said they were inspected by someone, so I think an effort is being made. And they were very well done.
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Reply #8 - May 14th, 2009, 8:40pm
 
Quote from Norval_132688 on May 14th, 2009, 4:04pm:
I wasn't going to say anything, but my mother's day order was terrible cry---color--------finishing [the fold was crooked--white showed bottom and side from back page, edges were damaged,------disaster------one of them was my wife's mother's day card.  She is a forgiving person though Wink

 
This worries me, too. Norval's not saying anything means that GCU doesn't know about it and can't do anything about it. (I assume the GCU is going to do something about it.) If QA is not addressed by the printer, then, maybe a different printer is needed. There are some pluses to ordering online from GCU, like not having to leave the house, not having to do the mailing, etc. But, there are some minuses, you can't see the actual card and know for sure what you are getting, and cost. I hope this gets taken care of, soon, so that the pluses continue to outweigh the minuses.  
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Reply #9 - May 14th, 2009, 8:52pm
 
don't forget - if you really want to check quality on a POD order (any POD), have a friend do the ordering, and shipped to him/her.  Keep your name/account completely out of it for the total customer experience.
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Reply #10 - May 15th, 2009, 12:36am
 
It would be comforting to us to hear of the specific improvements GCU makes based on our feedback.  I brought up the problem of multiple cards shipped one inside another in a "book" type form requiring refolding, and we have never heard back about how this was resolved (if at all).  Same goes for the "cards loosely placed in a box problem" resulting in bent corners.
 
Please tell us what changes you've actually instituted please.
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Reply #11 - May 15th, 2009, 7:14pm
 
I just last week received an order of 10 of my cards. They were not folded together book style, but were folded separately. They were wrapped in -- I don't know what it's called, but it's a thin sheet of packing material. The extra space within the box was taken up by strips of Styrofoam. You could have shaken the box vigorously and no harm would have come to the corners.  
 
The quality of the printing is fabulous, BTW. I had ordered these cards to show to local shop owners who had expressed interest in selling my cards and prints. I still have more meetings, but I've received enthusiastic responses on the quality so far. And the matte, which I don't normally use, is very nice. In the future, I will be ordering my paintings and drawings in matte. Looks much better. The photos, of course, are best in glossy. Deep, rich color and flawless finish. I am very, very happy with my order.
 
Quote from Tom_133317 on May 15th, 2009, 12:36am:
It would be comforting to us to hear of the specific improvements GCU makes based on our feedback.  I brought up the problem of multiple cards shipped one inside another in a "book" type form requiring refolding, and we have never heard back about how this was resolved (if at all).  Same goes for the "cards loosely placed in a box problem" resulting in bent corners.

Please tell us what changes you've actually instituted please.

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Reply #12 - May 15th, 2009, 7:51pm
 
Hi Harry and all,
     Your cards are very nice but your passive aggressive behaviour is disturbing.  
     I am sorry you are having a problem, but usually clean and sober adults try to resolve problems in a specific and direct way before they broadcast an issue. (Any of us can call as I have, when I spoke to them, myself). I wonder if you are in recovery and are having a melt down. If so, I would love to help you. Just email me.
     I have bought many of my own, and one from Moonlake and they have all been spectacular.
     I suspect that even though an artist uploads a 2100x1500 or 1500x2100 image that meets quantity guidelines, it doesn't guarantee that it was processed to advantage before it was turned into a .jpg file.
     I for one, don't believe we can fault gcu or the printers for any problems with how the art work looks. For example, when you increase or decrease a part of your image or otherwise manipulate it, combine layers etc, it gets distorted which is magnified in the printing process, and you may not have noticed it on screen.
     You can't fault the oven for the way the cake turned out!
     I have posted this here in response to your post, which you opened up for discussion. I would never have blind-sided you in front of everyone and do not believe anyone else should either. If we care about each other, and I do care about you and all of us.
 
Peace be with You,
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Reply #13 - May 15th, 2009, 10:12pm
 
Nilla,
 
I am shocked and saddened by your attack on Harry.
 
Yes Harry is abrasive at times, he knows it, we all know it, but for you to first suggest he is not clean and sober and then lecture him on the baby steps of art is offensive. I know you can do better.
 
I know you are leaping to the defense of GCU, and I support that, we like GCU and want the best for all of them and all of us, but you should avoid personal attacks of this nature.
 
Harry was voicing a problem he had, it needs to be heard. Most of what we see here about quality is GREAT news and that is wonderful, but if there is an issue then GCU needs to know about it. The printer may have a problem or might be training a new inspector.....but we don't want customers leaving us if bad cards are going out.
 
I believe you owe Harry an apology. Please reread what you and he have written, I think you will see what I mean.
 
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Reply #14 - May 15th, 2009, 11:10pm
 
I believe we DO have, and rightfully so, an expectation of CONSISTENT quality in the production of the greeting cards we create.  This discussion has gone back and forth for over two years.  Progress HAS been made on this front BECAUSE of members voicing their concerns and making suggestions.  
 
Norval, Harry, and Terry have all been at GCU for quite a while and feedback from their experiences (as well as many others) with receiving product from the several printers and packagers GCU has partnered with over the years has contributed to better quality we see now.  But it is NOT always consistently so and GCU admin. SHOULD know about those instances.
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