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Harry_132595

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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #15 - May 15^th, 2009, 8:12am

Quote from Harry_132595 on May 15^th, 2009, 8:02am:

Quote from Kathy_135811 on May 15^th, 2009, 7:57am:

Very well said, Harry! I started out using the watermark, and then quit because it is so ugly and detracts from the graphic so much. I've had friends that went in and looked and commented about how bad it looks and how hard it makes it to see the image, especially in some instances. So, I turned it off, but now I'm rethinking it, not that my artwork is the greatest, by any means. It would be nice to see a better watermark that prevents copying of images, etc., while not detracting from the artwork.
Kathy

Thank you Kathy ... I really don't come here often and I hadn't looked at the watermark in a while ... but the watermark was on my cards the last time I looked at them. Well today it's not. Can someone please tell me how to turn it back on??? I sure as hell can't figure out how.

OK I figure out how to turn it on ... but I have to ask GCU to turn back on something I never wanted turned off in the first place!

Yup, I don't come here often and I don't keep up with the lastest news and sillyness that goes on around here ... and I am sure Mindy will figure out a way to say this is my fault ... but I am hopping mad anyway!

The watermark should be a default setting the artist can turn on or off as they choose!

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Jen_137190 GCU Newbies artist Posts: 9	Re: copyrightprotection not working Reply #16 - May 15^th, 2009, 9:26am Hello, GCU, are you listening? If you want to get (and keep) professional-level artists here, you will have to fix this problem. Thank you.
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Roley_134587

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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #17 - May 15^th, 2009, 10:42am

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If the Orphan Works Act is passed we will essentially have no copyright protection unless we pay to register each and every image and verse. Won't that be fun ... and expensive!

If you think your art is worth it, you should register it to be able to sue for damages. But if you're not even willing to pay to register because it's expensive ...

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If you want to get (and keep) professional-level artists here

So are you saying that those who do not have a problem with it are not professional artists?

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Harry_132595

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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #18 - May 15^th, 2009, 2:18pm

Quote from Roley_134587 on May 15^th, 2009, 10:42am:

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If the Orphan Works Act is passed we will essentially have no copyright protection unless we pay to register each and every image and verse. Won't that be fun ... and expensive!

If you think your art is worth it, you should register it to be able to sue for damages. But if you're not even willing to pay to register because it's expensive ...

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If you want to get (and keep) professional-level artists here

So are you saying that those who do not have a problem with it are not professional artists?

Think about what you are saying ... willing isn't the issue ... being able to afford it is. The Orphan Works act is a mess.

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Mindy

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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #19 - May 15^th, 2009, 2:43pm

Please also see this thread discussing the same topic:
http://www.greetingcarduniverse.com/forum/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1242151539/0

Harry,
Agreed, Deviantart.com is a great site. I just spent nearly 20 mins clicking on incredible art yet did not come across a single one with a watermark. Interesting to note as well that they do not have right click disablement. What is it about their image protection practices you would like us to take a look at?

GCU respects the different opinions and preferences of our artists. We give great importance to our image protection practices and are in the process of improving them with the new bi-level watermark setting and the new watermark itself.

The watermark is a setting in Global Preferences that all artists can turn ON or OFF as they choose. However the application or removal of the watermark itself to EXISTING cards can not be done automatically. Regenerating the images is a CPU intensive process that if artists changed their watermark settings ON and OFF willy nilly could cause performance issues.

Please see here for those not in the loop of our current image & watermark changes:
http://www.greetingcarduniverse.com/forum/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1236295096

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barbara_133221

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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #20 - May 15^th, 2009, 3:31pm

Hi Mindy and everybody!
Now I'm feeling a bit lost and am wondering what would work out the best: watermark or no watermark.
Some say a watermark does not harm or detract, others say it does. Sometimes a watermark bothers me, as it does not always look nice, and on the other hand it protects the image, but on the other hand, by buying a card and scanning it everybody can copy ......... undecided

Now I'm thinking, maybe it's best NOt to have the watermark, as Tom pointed out that, although the image appears big on the monitor, it is only wallet size when printed.
On the other hand, if the watermark clearly states that it will not appear when the card is printed.......???
My original intent in posting was the fact that although the message popped up, I could still download, and I thought that was a glitch that could be easily corrected.

I'm rambling......I'll sleep over it and then decide what to do about the watermark.
Have a nice day, everybody!

cheers, barbara

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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #21 - May 21^st, 2009, 5:39pm

Quote from barbara_133221 on May 14^th, 2009, 9:28am:

Hi Mindy,
Had posted the below yesterday, please fix this. I never use watermarks and do not like the fact that all cards (not only mine) can be downloaded without any problem. Thanks!

Quote from barbara_133221 on May 12th, 2009, 11:05am:
Hi Mindy and Shaun,
wanted to make sure that the watermark was not featuring anymore on my cards, so I went to my store, took one of the latest cards I had made, clicked on it, zoomed in large view.
Then, on an impulse, I thought, let's check if the "this image is copyright protected" function is working, so I right-clicked on the large view image- got the "This Image is Copyright Protected. This function has been disabled." message, but right-clicked again, and could download without any problems my card!! Shocked

Tried this with several of my cards - could download each and everyone, regardless of the message: "This Image is Copyright Protected. This function has been disabled."
Tried it with cards from other artists - same problem - I could download every card without any difficulties Roll Eyes

Please check into this!
cheers, barbara

Right clicks on all images have been disabled. No message is presented, no drop down appears, all actions are blocked with the right click.

Please try it and give us your feedback.

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Jen_137190 GCU Newbies artist Posts: 9	Re: copyrightprotection not working Reply #22 - May 21^st, 2009, 5:57pm I just tried it again and you're right....the right-click seems to be disabled. Thanks!!
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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #23 - May 21^st, 2009, 6:36pm

Would like to report that the right-click function was indeed disabled on all of my attempts with Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, and Safari browsers. However, not such good news about the Opera browser. I am about to send an e-mail with more info...

Congratulations on achieving the absolutely enormous undertaking of regenerating all the images!

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barbara_133221 Gold Member artist Posts: 688	Re: copyrightprotection not working Reply #24 - May 22^nd, 2009, 1:34am Hi Mindy, THANKS ! I cannot download anymore! I agree with Tom that if anybody really wants to copy, all they have to do is buy and scan a card, but disabling the download right click makes things also a lot more difficult. Have a terrific weekend cheers, barbara
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Kathy_131728 Gold Member artist Posts: 610	Re: copyrightprotection not working Reply #25 - May 22^nd, 2009, 4:52am Hi Mindy, Sorry to say this, but I am still able to copy with Internet Explorer right click. I am using the Vista Operating System. Kathy Can you tell us exactly which page on the site you were on?
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Mindy

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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #26 - May 26^th, 2009, 3:15pm

Quote from Joan_135833 on May 21^st, 2009, 6:36pm:

Would like to report that the right-click function was indeed disabled on all of my attempts with Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, and Safari browsers. However, not such good news about the Opera browser. I am about to send an e-mail with more info...

Congratulations on achieving the absolutely enormous undertaking of regenerating all the images!

Opera is not likely a browser we will make special programming efforts for.

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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #27 - Jul 9^th, 2009, 2:55am

Hi,
I can still copy "large view" of any of our cards - I click on the picture (with left button on the mouse) and drag it with left button on the mouse to the browser - it will appeared in new tab and I can do everything with it - post it, copy it, save it, ...
I can do this in Mozilla Firefox and in Window Internet Explorer.
Unfortunately for us - Anyone can steal anything if really want to do it!
Eva

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Kathy_135811 Gold Member artist Posts: 623	Re: copyrightprotection not working Reply #28 - Jul 9^th, 2009, 6:20am In view of the person who was stealing images for her digiscrapping, it appears that the copyright protection does not work. Any ideas as to what can be done about preventing such theft in the future? Kathy
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Mindy

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Re: copyrightprotection not working
Reply #29 - Jul 14^th, 2009, 1:58pm

Quote from Kathy_135811 on Jul 9^th, 2009, 6:20am:

In view of the person who was stealing images for her digiscrapping, it appears that the copyright protection does not work. Any ideas as to what can be done about preventing such theft in the future?
Kathy

Your best bet is to use an image protection watermark so your images themselves are marred, however that is not foolproof as some thieves will crop parts of the image that they want that is not touched by the watermark itself.

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