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Reply #30 - May 15th, 2009, 1:01am
 
I hope something smart is done because this change, I believe, has caused my average daily store visits to be chopped in half, and my average daily sales to drop 75%!  I suspect I am one of many "big stores" impacted.  I've had a number of no-sales days in the last week, and that is very unusual for a store my size.
 
I have also noticed many of the cards being sold in the last week (based on the GCU home page New Card Sold thingy) are from the lower levels of the category tree, suggesting, as I have pointed out, that the ALL category is not getting browsed like it was, but that' the category where the vast majority of cards and stores are represented.  As I've stated, 90% of the Bridesmaids cards are in ALL, for instance.  The ALL also contains the most popular GCU cards, as the most popular cards are non-specific! Don't we want our shoppers to see these cards that have sold so well??
 
The new User Interface (UI) design must take into account the category weighting and not present a category with a few cards and stores represented in it, with the same importance as one with 500 or 1200 cards.  This goes beyond "tweaking."
 
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Reply #31 - May 15th, 2009, 5:24am
 
Tom,
I wonder if other artists with established stores and steady sales are seeing a drop in activity with the new menu style? It would be great to hear from them too. I wish I could help I don't see a change for my stats but I don't have that much to go on yet.  
 
I want to add another frustrating observation also. In some cases even when you are specific your category 'branch' is too obscure.
 I am calling for a single 'Military to/from' category in the Fathers Day page. Right now the only one showing is From deployed military, the 'to deployed' is buried in Occupation specific. I would think there would be more cards 'going to' those overseas than 'from' and yet no-one is going to find them if they look on the Fathers Day page. They will open the' from deployed' cards and think we don't have cards to send 'to' those overseas! I am harping on this a bit but Father's Day is coming fast and it needs attention.
 
I wish I had a constructive solution to add here but this all makes my head spin. undecided
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Reply #32 - May 15th, 2009, 7:52am
 
Tom, I feel like someone wrapped their hands around my sales/visits and started squeezing, choking them out the last little while.
 
I don't know if the new menus are causing it or it is something else but I *need*some*air*  
 
 
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Reply #33 - May 15th, 2009, 8:22am
 
Quote from Jeff_135713 on May 15th, 2009, 7:52am:
Tom, I feel like someone wrapped their hands around my sales/visits and started squeezing, choking them out the last little while.

I don't know if the new menus are causing it or it is something else but I *need*some*air*
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Yes, it could be just a fluke, and not all big stores might be seeing a drop, but the main point was to consider a better way to do browsing than what has been implemented, as it likely is involved in what I'm experiencing.
 
As I sit here today, I've had 1 store visit vs. a 90-day running average of 30/day, and the day is nearly half over. undecided
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Reply #34 - May 15th, 2009, 8:26am
 
I haven't had a visit yet today, with about 30 on the average also.
 
It could be "just that time of year", or the economy, or my cards going out of style.
 
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Reply #35 - May 15th, 2009, 8:48am
 
I'll chime in, although I nowhere near the "Big Leagues" with y'all. I had almost always had, at the very least, double-digit visits and a nice little run of sales every day. Then, BOOM, single-digit visits and there went my run of sales.  cry  I'm sure, I hope I'm sure, please let me be sure, that it will come back, but, not holding my breath, either. Oh well, life is full of ups and downs.
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Reply #36 - May 15th, 2009, 1:52pm
 
Oddly today, I also have no store visits and clicks seem to be on the low side of my normal Huh
This has not been the case since the change over, just today, so it may just be a slow shopping day.
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Reply #37 - May 15th, 2009, 4:29pm
 
Quote from Pamela_135500 on May 15th, 2009, 5:24am:
Tom,
I wonder if other artists with established stores and steady sales are seeing a drop in activity with the new menu style? It would be great to hear from them too. I wish I could help I don't see a change for my stats but I don't have that much to go on yet.

I want to add another frustrating observation also. In some cases even when you are specific your category 'branch' is too obscure.
I am calling for a single 'Military to/from' category in the Fathers Day page. Right now the only one showing is From deployed military, the 'to deployed' is buried in Occupation specific. I would think there would be more cards 'going to' those overseas than 'from' and yet no-one is going to find them if they look on the Fathers Day page. They will open the' from deployed' cards and think we don't have cards to send 'to' those overseas! I am harping on this a bit but Father's Day is coming fast and it needs attention.

I wish I had a constructive solution to add here but this all makes my head spin. undecided
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We will be moving the From Military Service / Deployed under Occupation specific to be consistent.
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Reply #38 - May 15th, 2009, 4:48pm
 
We have updated the category pages to allow proper orientation of both landscape and portrait cards.
 
See here:
http://www.greetingcarduniverse.com/shopping/card_category.asp?cid=23
 
We will continue to make improvements to this page design over the next few weeks.
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Reply #39 - May 15th, 2009, 4:53pm
 
Mindy
I am so sorry and I certainly appreciate your help on combining the two categories but I feel kind of like I have shot myself in the foot. My cards are already coming through with the notification they are being moved but now I feel we have buried them forever, lost in an obscure category. Whilst it is logical to have them under occupation specific I feel they will not be found. If I was a shopper looking at the Father's Day page I would have no idea we had anything for the Military and move one. The separate category was great, obvious and would have been just great with both to/from military in there.
 
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Reply #40 - May 16th, 2009, 3:37am
 
For the record, I had just 4 store visits Friday vs. an average of 30, and only a 1 order vs. an average of 9.  It's becoming obvious that the new menu system has, in effect, drawn shoppers to the smallest and most specialized categories covering the least number cards and stores, and that many sustaining artists, which GCU has been built on, will see a collapse in sales as a result since most of us have cards designed before many of these specialized categories were created.  It would be nice to hear GCU express a concern in this regard and acknowledge that they have a plan to provide a better UI design that provides a proper balance of card type exposure (general vs. specialized) relative to their representation in card count.
 
Look at how lopsided it is now in the Bridesmaids category area, for instance.  I suspect the number of stores represented by the specialized categories is less than 5% of those in the ALL category here. Ughh!
 
And are the images really helpful to shoppers here if only the text is different?  There is a huge waste of space in this UI design since the images are all very similar (dresses and flowers in this case).  Wait till the shopper gets to the lowest browse level they seek before using page space to show the cards (imo).  START OVER PLEASE!
 

 
 
 
 
 
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Reply #41 - May 16th, 2009, 5:09am
 
Tom, your chart brings up several interesting things.
 
1. I think the ALL category covers the cards in the lower categories also. (This is not always the case which must be confusing to the customer, I know it is for me)
 
2. As it is presented here it looks like it works much better for the customers, they can zoom to what they want if they are looking for more specific.
 
I think one of the places GCU succeeds is in providing cards no one else has, this looks highlights that strength.
 
Perhaps what needs to happen is to move cards in the ALL or GENERAL areas that belong in a sub-category to correct areas. Those huge mega groups of cards seem to never get browsed past the first page or so. This, as you were talking about a week or so back, keeps the newer quality cards from ever being seen. The customer just gets overwhelmed and never gets to the middle pages to see the cards.
 
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Reply #42 - May 16th, 2009, 5:24am
 
Tom,
 
Another thing that may be creating some turmoil in your sales could be the time of year. I notice that the bridesmaid category is way down from a month or so back. It is at about 30% of what it was.
 
The wedding cards have dropped off and I believe that is a large percent of your sales.
 
I notice also that there is a small rise in the total number of categories that have sales in them, this may be a result of the new menus.
 
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Reply #43 - May 16th, 2009, 7:03am
 
Yes Jeff, I realize the wedding area surged early this year but, interestingly, dropped a lot in April.  Bridesmaid cards sold were far less, in total, to Pro Admin and Nurse's Day cards sold in April.  I luckily did well with these Holidays.
 
The sales "curve" I've shown a few times does show a lot of lumpiness month-to-month, so that's normal, but the store visits have always been solid even with slower sales.  This tells me that the recent drop in store visits is mostly due to this menu change.
 
On my percentages shown above, I did subtract out the specialty cards from the ALL number in calculating the percentages, so that should be correct.
 
It turns out 80% or so of GCU cards are not relationship,  age, or name  specific,  so it doesn't make sense to create lower level categories for them unless there were another type of segregation allowed, such as by style (humor, serious, photography, painting,  …), but that would take a ton of work. I don't see any movement in that direction, sadly, because that would help the shopper narrow in on a choice. A case and point is the Bridesmaid non-relationship specific ALL category with nearly 2000 general cards.  Most shopper see the first few browse pages there, usually sorted by popularity, and pick one.  The ones deeper back collect dust.  It sure would be nice for the shopper to, within the category, sort or search by style, keywords, or keyword tag cloud, to at least give them a subset closer in appeal to what they are looking for.   This needs to happen!
 
So here we are - artists are now stuck.  We can focus on highly specialized cards which account for only 1 in 5 cards sold traditionally, or we can make general cards only to have them stuck in FAT general categories where they will soon be lost.  I honestly have hundreds of great, funny, general category cards that are now deeply buried, and even though they have been “out there” for months, they have not even been clicked once!   That is very discouraging!!
 
That is partially why I am fighting to maintain or grow our store visits.  If we can get a costumer in our own stores, we have a better chance for a sale since they can more easily browse or search our cards than they can the towering mountain of GCU cards, especially with this new (*bleeped*) menu system.  
 
Thanks for your words and insights.
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Reply #44 - May 16th, 2009, 7:09am
 
I agree that store visits are way down, but I'm not sure if the economy has any impact on it.
 
When it looked like the economy was rebounding and there was optimism in the country I saw an immediate surge in sales and visits, then when the optimism softened my visits also dipped, but I don't have a lot of data to work with.
 
You have extensive data so I think you can see the trends better. I know my store visits are down but my clicks are up, but store visits are always spotty with me, sometimes I have days with 10 times the visits, but I know when someone comes in and wanders around in my store I add a visit for every page they visit, that can add up fast.  I found that people do that less when I have a bunch of the same card up, I guess they get tired of seeing the same thing, one of the reasons I want to be able to put cards in my own folders.
 
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