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Creative Works Misuse Policy
Feb 16th, 2008, 9:25am
 
GCUniverse will enforce this policy in order to prevent the misuse of the original creative works, image/art and verse, of artists.  All GCUniverse artists have agreed to and accepted in our Terms & Conditions that they have or own the rights to use and sell all images/art and verse they submit.  Artists also agree to this each time a card is created.
 
Granted there may often be similar ideas and concepts, even verses, however at no time should an artist's cards be a clear "copy cat" of another's image/art or unique verse.  
 
As for the usage of stock photography/images, artists are responsible for abiding by the stock site's licensing rules of usage and limitations in regards to reselling and proper accreditation.  In acceptance of GCU's T&C, artists accept and acknowledge to having the appropriate rights to use stock photography/images in this manner.  
 
Although we do review and approve cards, we do not verify or validate image/art and verse rights.  Any legal implications for creative work misuse is the sole responsibility and liability of the submitting artist.
 
Based on reports of potential abuse, GCUniverse will contact artists in question giving them the opportunity to rectify the situation by changing or removing the suspect card(s).  GCUniverse has the right, and will upon our discretion terminate an artist from GCU and their use of our site and services.  
 
GCUniverse will not tolerate the copying of another artist's creative work - no copy cats, poachers, no "borrowing", no stealing.  If it's not your idea, artwork or unique verse - Don't use it!
 
To report misuse of your creative works please send an email to:
reportabuse@greetingcarduniverse.com
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Reply #1 - Feb 18th, 2008, 12:10am
 
Well Said  Cool
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Reply #2 - Feb 29th, 2008, 8:00am
 
I am new to this so I am just learning the ropes.  
Dustin found me and I sure am glad about that.  
How about posting some possible card messages without running into copyright issues. I don't mean having canned messages available. Just some suggestions of possibilities. I fear that my messages are so old fashioned because I come from an era, before the internet,  Smiley  when people were pretty formal in their invitations.  
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Reply #3 - Feb 29th, 2008, 12:20pm
 
Quote from Juliette_133346 on Feb 29th, 2008, 8:00am:
I am new to this so I am just learning the ropes.
Dustin found me and I sure am glad about that.
How about posting some possible card messages without running into copyright issues. I don't mean having canned messages available. Just some suggestions of possibilities. I fear that my messages are so old fashioned because I come from an era, before the internet, Smiley when people were pretty formal in their invitations.

 
Something like this may come in the future if we offer a "message genie" like feature.
 
I've read some of your verses.  They are lovely so I think you're doing a fine job.  Kind words never go out of style Wink
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Reply #4 - Feb 29th, 2008, 11:17pm
 
Mindy,
 
Thank you for giving us this clearly stated policy and guideline for GCU artists.  
 
As I've said before, you are amazing ... and GCU is the best!  Thanks again!   Smiley
 
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@ Julie ...
Your cards are beautiful!!!  Gorgeous paintings ... and the inside messages are lovely and sincere.  Like Mindy said, kind words and warm sentiments never go out of style.  Good luck and much success to you!
 
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Big thanks to Inge, who provided this link in another thread:  http://www.verses4cards.co.uk/    
 
This is a great resource for help with verses for all occasions.  I've corresponded with Jon Bratton, the owner of the parent site Imag-e-nation.com, and he said it is fine for GCU artists to use their verses.  He has written many of them himself, but he cannot guarantee the copyright status of those by unknown authors.  Still, it's a great souce for inspiration.  The only caveat is for those selling more than 50 cards per week.  If you are lucky enough to be in that catagory, you may want to contact him for permission and/or nominal licensing terms ... he seems like a very nice man who is very supportive of crafters and card makers.  Again, thanks to Inge!
 
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@ El ....    Smiley    
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Reply #5 - Mar 1st, 2008, 5:06am
 
Quote:
... I've read some of your verses.  They are lovely so I think you're doing a fine job.  Kind words never got out of style Wink

 
I totally agree!  
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Reply #6 - Mar 8th, 2008, 1:21pm
 
Thank you Teri and Thank you for doing so much more extra research to help out Smiley
I wished to do more, but haven't had the time needed and health too, so it was very nice seeing you doing all this here and in the other thread too Smiley
 
Have a wonderful weekend Smiley
 
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Reply #7 - Mar 25th, 2008, 2:13am
 
Hi!
 
I am a newbie and hope this is the right place to ask about Fonts that appear in the front cover design. What are the guidelines , if any, concerning copyrights regarding fonts?
 
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Reply #8 - Mar 25th, 2008, 3:15am
 
I would imagine the same copyright applies to created fonts as it does to images.  
 
There are so many fonts available on the web, it can be very difficult to tell if the font is trademarked or under copyright or not, especially with so many sites dedicated to collecting fonts and offering them to the public. Before downloading from a font site, check the terms of use. Some font sites will give information on individual fonts, whether they're free for all use, free for personal use only, are shareware, or require a license to use commercially.
 
If you can't find terms of use, using the font is at your own judgment. Usually, if someone does have an objection to your using their copyrighted font, they'll send you an email or report it to GCU admin.
 
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Reply #9 - Mar 25th, 2008, 3:19am
 
Thanks Corrie!
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Reply #10 - Apr 14th, 2009, 2:38pm
 
Ok - I noticed a card using a quote from Emily Dickinson on a someones beautiful card. - I'm not wanting to get that person in trouble, but I find myself wondering did that slip through the system or is it ok use quotes or did they some how get permission to use that Emily Dickinson quote.  - My question is about the use of quotes. I have a number of great quotes on prayer that I would love to use by various preachers from the past. Can I use them if I list who said the quote. Or do I have to seek out who holds the copyright for many of these long dead people.  
Most of these quotes I found in various places on the internet or in books that I have read.
Could someone shed a little more light on this subject please.
 
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Reply #11 - Apr 14th, 2009, 3:29pm
 
Hi Margot!
 
I'm interested in the answer to your question as well, as I have used 2 or 3 quotes on here already - and have included the author's name where possible.  And I have used Biblical quotations without a second thought.
 
It's my understanding that if you do that, and the quote is obviously in the public domain as quotable quotes........?
 
Some quotes that I personally found while reading particular books 20 years ago, and made note of, run rampantly on the internet now.  Are we to believe that every person using them got permission?
 
Glad you brought it up, in case I'm doing something wrong on here.
 
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Reply #12 - Apr 14th, 2009, 10:41pm
 
Whether it's okay to quote a quote will depend on whether the quote remains under copyright or not. For example, the speeches and writings of Martin Luther King, Jr, are still under copyright to his estate. Some versions of the Bible are copyrighted (not the King James version, obviously, but other more modern translations). Using quotes on cards is at your own judgment. You'll have to do research to find out if the quote you want to use is copyrighted to the author or his/her estate, and if permission is required.
 
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Reply #13 - Apr 16th, 2009, 4:43pm
 
Quote from Corrie_131338 on Apr 14th, 2009, 10:41pm:
Whether it's okay to quote a quote will depend on whether the quote remains under copyright or not. For example, the speeches and writings of Martin Luther King, Jr, are still under copyright to his estate. Some versions of the Bible are copyrighted (not the King James version, obviously, but other more modern translations). Using quotes on cards is at your own judgment. You'll have to do research to find out if the quote you want to use is copyrighted to the author or his/her estate, and if permission is required.

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Correct, thank you for chiming in Corrie.   Smiley
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Reply #14 - Apr 16th, 2009, 5:09pm
 
Specific Question Mindy, does this policy rule out all vintage images, because they definitely are another artist work from the past, even if repainted and re-composed, even if source is given.  If so I will get mine off imediately.   Thank You Norval
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Reply #15 - Apr 17th, 2009, 1:02pm
 
Quote from Norval_132688 on Apr 16th, 2009, 5:09pm:
Specific Question Mindy, does this policy rule out all vintage images, because they definitely are another artist work from the past, even if repainted and re-composed, even if source is given.  If so I will get mine off imediately.   Thank You Norval

 
In general for vintage works please see here:
http://www.greetingcarduniverse.com/forum/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1222207513/0#0
 
If you have the rights to use a vintage image w/o being held up to our scrutiny of a "reworked" creation then let us know that when you submit the card, perhaps in the Artists Notes as to your source.
 
You will need to decide or research rights for your existing cards.  If you'd like us to take a look and advise you please send a note to cardreview@greetingcarduniverse.com with the pid #'s.
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Reply #16 - Apr 17th, 2009, 1:32pm
 
We just closed an artist's storefront due to repeated misuse of 3rd party images (not the first store we've had to close).
 
To be clear, in order to use 3rd party images you MUST get the proper permissions.  This means specifically:
COMMERCIAL USE FOR THE PURPOSE OF POD RESALE ON PAPER GREETING CARDS.  
 
Just because an image...
 
does not have a copyright symbol, watermark or artist's signature  
is on a Royalty Free website
came with your clip art software you purchased
 
...does NOT mean you can use the image for use on POD products like Greeting Cards for resale.  
 
You must check and double check your sources and confirm what the site/artist/license/terms allow.  If you are unsure contact the site or the artist directly.  Simply asking "can I use your image?" is not specific enough.
 
Please report any image misuse to GCU immediately at: reportabuse@greetingcarduniverse.com
 
Thank you!  Smiley
 
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Reply #17 - Apr 17th, 2009, 1:35pm
 
Thanks Mindy, I had read that, thats what had me so confused when I reread the post from February last year when I pulled up yeasterdays post, the two are very contradictory?
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Reply #18 - Apr 17th, 2009, 1:39pm
 
I just read the last paragraph, I made sure they were copyright free before I even thought of usng the images.  Thanks anyway    Norval
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Reply #19 - Jul 22nd, 2009, 2:05pm
 
Greetings!
 
Has anyone sent an email to the 'report abuse' address?  About how long did it take to get an response back?  Or did you get a response back?  Was your issue resolved?
 
Thanks!
 
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Reply #20 - Sep 17th, 2009, 3:40pm
 
Thanks Mindy for bring this up I too wondered about quotes, after reading through this I got my answer.. Grin Grin
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Reply #21 - Nov 9th, 2010, 11:10am
 
Here is some good insight re: subjects that are off limits, believe it or not.  
 
See here:
http://www.bigstockphoto.com/blog/theupload/2010/05/stock-photo-trademark-violat ions/
 
We have already uncovered many of these on GCU as images are submitted and have add to our Wiki "tabu" list. It is good to realize that just because you purchased a product (ie: stuffed animal) or something is in the public (ie: building) that it is ok to sell the image on products.  
 
See the growing list on our wiki:
http://wiki.greetingcarduniverse.com/index.php/Tips_and_Tricks#Tabu_Information
 
The big differences here is SELL.  EX: You can take pictures of the Space Needle all day long for your own use but you cannot sell products featuring it.
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Reply #22 - Nov 9th, 2010, 2:42pm
 
Mindy,
You just jogged my memory.   Cheesy
A while back I had a card rejected because I used a phrase from an old popular song, "You are the wind beneath my wings."  I changed the wording, but requested that the reviewer pass a message on to you (GCU) for me.  I never heard back from GCU and would like to bring it up again.  
During that time period, I had several cards rejected because of something (songs) similar.  
While I am not a lawyer and cannot be considered in any way a legal authority... I did graduate college as a Music Major.  We were taught in composition classes that the title and/or short phrases in songs could NOT be copyrighted.  That is why you find so many songs with the same names as other/older songs.  Those phrases that we use commonly, like "You are the wind beneath my wings," are called 'Hooks.'   They are used in songs because the folks will recognize them and remember the song that way.  We are not stealing the composer's work when we use them; if anything, it's vice-versa.  Now, if we were to use the lyrics in their entirety, or even a major portion of them, that would be stealing something protected by copyright.
Mindy, unless the law has changed in recent years, I think we should be allowed to use things like, "You are the wind beneath my wings," or "What a wonderful world," or "The Autumn leaves drift by my window," etc.
Not trying to nit-pick or stir up a hornet's nest.   Just seems that we (GCU artists) should be afforded the same freedom to use common phrases (hooks) as the songwriters are.   Roll Eyes  Hooks hook the customer and sell products...   Cool
Thanks for listening and considering...
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Reply #23 - Nov 10th, 2010, 6:56am
 
Hi Sue.. I thought that was the case as well, have wanted include some in my card designs as well but had a feeling they would be denied during the approval, so I have not gambled on that as of yet.. (but would like to)
 
on a quick scan on the "net" I found this .. there are a few lines right there on the sample page of the book that states similar to as you have mentioned.. worth taking a peek.  :
 
http://books.google.com/books?id=r8rU60NzsDMC&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=ar e+hooks+songs+copyright+protected%3F&source=bl&ots=M2bhb0ymPi&sig=d8iwhYzoikPakk4SL7JdejgdM8U&hl=en&ei=VrHaTLS5OYaBlAeswK27CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=are%20hooks%20songs%20copyright%20protected%3F&f=false
 
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Reply #24 - Nov 10th, 2010, 7:45am
 
Sue and Tanya,
Your information is very helpful, thanks for sharing.
I would have no idea of music copyright but I am more familiar with the Bigstock info that Mindy posted on copyrighted images.  
 
Which made me realize that this whole copyright issue is a very complicated area. Without a designated copyright 'expert' on board at GCU it might be really difficult to know what is in fact OK to use. I cannot see the reviewers being able to effectively know all the nuances of copyright law and thats quite a responsibility and time consuming for them which seems above and beyond their position.
 
I know we have to check the box 'I submit I have the right to use this image in this manner', I wonder does that completely eliminate any responsibility GCU might bear and does it then solely rest on us if a copyright infringement is found?  Is it just the artist who is responsible or by accepting the image/line is GCU responsible, or is it both? That may explain their hesitancy in many cases.
 
It's good this has come up again to help us think of the consideration we should give to checking off that box on the create a card page and what our responsibilities might be should an infringement occur.  
 
Just my ramblings... Smiley
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Reply #25 - Nov 11th, 2010, 8:12am
 
Quote from Pamela_135500 on Nov 10th, 2010, 7:45am:


I know we have to check the box 'I submit I have the right to use this image in this manner', I wonder does that completely eliminate any responsibility GCU might bear and does it then solely rest on us if a copyright infringement is found?  Is it just the artist who is responsible or by accepting the image/line is GCU responsible, or is it both? That may explain their hesitancy in many cases.


Pamela


 
from my experience with the stock site etc, we would be responsible, gcu would not have any part except to ask us to remove them from the site or for them to remove them for us.  and yes i would say that the click box is a sort of disclaimer.
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Reply #26 - Nov 11th, 2010, 8:19am
 
Thanks Denise for clarifying Smiley
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Reply #27 - Dec 11th, 2010, 3:45pm
 
Very nicely said Smiley
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Reply #28 - Dec 11th, 2010, 4:53pm
 
Thanks Mindy and all for the excellent information in this thread.  After reading, thought I better revisit the GCU Wiki Tabu section.  Much to my surprise I noticed "double your pleasure, double your fun" on the tabu list.  I used a similar phrase on one card over a year ago. Used double the pleasure! double the fun! on a twin birth announcement.
See here: http://www.greetingcarduniverse.com/shopping/zoom.asp?pid=617996&w=1&ref =details_large_view
 
Is this considered an infringement?  Never even entered my mind at the time.
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Reply #29 - Feb 18th, 2016, 2:14pm
 
I have been told this card infringed someone's creative copyright, though I took this photo my self, and the wording is original.
 
http://www.zazzle.com.au/happy_birthday_border_terrier_sniffing_around_greeting_ card-137309115159754389
 
I am finding it hard to comprehend. I think the nearest on I have found is  
941262
 
I would be grateful for any input.
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Reply #30 - Feb 18th, 2016, 4:10pm
 
Quote from Mary_140624 on Feb 18th, 2016, 2:14pm:
I have been told this card infringed someone's creative copyright, though I took this photo my self, and the wording is original.

http://www.zazzle.com.au/happy_birthday_border_terrier_sniffing_around_greeting_ card-137309115159754389

I am finding it hard to comprehend. I think the nearest on I have found is
941262

I would be grateful for any input.
Thanks Mary

 
Mary, this is your original submission (left) which we declined as we felt it was too heavily inspired by Natalie Kinnear's collection (right).  Making additional tweaks to the design does not change the review team's determination that it is based on another artist's work.
 

 
GCU advises:
As an artist it is your responsibility to design cards that offer shoppers a variety of choices and not similar cards that are already offered. This best serves shoppers and all artists. Additionally GCU does not tolerate the copying of another artist's submissions whether it be inspired by or intentional.  
 
 
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Reply #31 - Feb 18th, 2016, 6:17pm
 
Thanks Mindy, I got a bit confused! I see what you mean. It was completely unintentional.
I did not realise that certain words etc could be considered copying such as ,  " will you bee mine," " Hoppy Birthday" , and the one I used "  I nose ..."
 
 
I feel very sad to be banned for this, as it has given me such joy over the last six years.
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Reply #32 - Feb 19th, 2016, 11:25am
 
Quote from Mary_140624 on Feb 18th, 2016, 6:17pm:
Thanks Mindy, I got a bit confused! I see what you mean. It was completely unintentional.
I did not realise that certain words etc could be considered copying such as ,  " will you bee mine," " Hoppy Birthday" , and the one I used "  I nose ..."


I feel very sad to be banned for this, as it has given me such joy over the last six years.

 
Thanks for your reply and understanding.  To clarify, it's not just the phrase but a combination of factors - the phrase, subject matter in the image, occasion, inside verse, composition, etc.
 
I'm sorry, but coupled with the similar incident with the bigstock card it is too much to ignore.
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Reply #33 - Feb 19th, 2016, 12:52pm
 
Would it have been OK if I had made it for a different occasion? Ie , " I nose it is your Anniversary"?
As I took the photograph, and it is another hairy dog,but from a completely different angle I cannot understand that these two cards are the same.only the wording.
Thanks , Mary
Re the other card,this was the notification received .It was a Big Stock card in response to a request to " cards wanted"
 
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Dear Mary,
 
Thank you for submitting your card for use on GreetingCardUniverse.com.
 
Artist ID: 140624
Product ID: 1421720
 
 
Based on our review process, your card has been Returned for Edits. Please resubmit your card after correcting the following issues:  
 
Please Note: Hi Mary - in your Notes To Reviewer, please specify the complete category you have designed the card for. Please also include the link if the category was a Wanted Cards posting on the forum, or a Category in Need of Cards request from the Community Blog.  
If this is a second submission of the same card, please remember to always include the previous version's PID#.  
Without the category, the reviewers cannot tell if this is supposed to be a Wedding Anniversary Announcement, or a Wedding Anniversary Congratulations, etc.  
 
Please note that you are not limited to 10 keywords as posted. There is a character limit of about 280, but no limit on the number of keywords. So, please use as many descriptive words as you can. Thanks.  
 
When you resubmit your card please be sure to append any important notes in the Notes to Reviewer field. Add your new comments to the end and do NOT remove any prior notes.  
 
Please click here to Edit this card and resubmit it.  
 
 
 
 
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Reply #34 - Feb 19th, 2016, 5:16pm
 
Quote from Mary_140624 on Feb 19th, 2016, 12:52pm:
Would it have been OK if I had made it for a different occasion? Ie , " I nose it is your Anniversary"?
As I took the photograph, and it is another hairy dog,but from a completely different angle I cannot understand that these two cards are the same.only the wording.
Thanks , Mary
Re the other card,this was the notification received .It was a Big Stock card in response to a request to " cards wanted"

Sent from my
Dear Mary,
Thank you for submitting your card for use on GreetingCardUniverse.com.

Artist ID: 140624
Product ID: 1421720

Based on our review process, your card has been Returned for Edits. Please resubmit your card after correcting the following issues:

Please Note: Hi Mary - in your Notes To Reviewer, please specify the complete category you have designed the card for. Please also include the link if the category was a Wanted Cards posting on the forum, or a Category in Need of Cards request from the Community Blog.
If this is a second submission of the same card, please remember to always include the previous version's PID#.
Without the category, the reviewers cannot tell if this is supposed to be a Wedding Anniversary Announcement, or a Wedding Anniversary Congratulations, etc.

Please note that you are not limited to 10 keywords as posted. There is a character limit of about 280, but no limit on the number of keywords. So, please use as many descriptive words as you can. Thanks.

When you resubmit your card please be sure to append any important notes in the Notes to Reviewer field. Add your new comments to the end and do NOT remove any prior notes.

Please click here to Edit this card and resubmit it.

 
No, it would not have been ok.  You cannot base a design on that of another artist and tweak it just enough to qualify as different.  Not only is it not ethical but it is not legal.  If GCU were to allow artists to do this there would be rampant copycat designs, undermining the creative works of the original artists and not offering shoppers a vast array of unique designs.  GCU has a firm policy of not allowing this.
 
Our stated policy is:
GCUniverse will not tolerate the copying of another artist's creative work - no copy cats, poachers, no "borrowing", no stealing.  If it's not your idea, artwork or unique verse - Don't use it!  
 
As for the BigStock card, the first reviewer was not aware of the original design of which your submission was curiously near identical.  Our reviewers are very visual and have amazing memories but they don't memorize every card on the site, thus we rely on a community based system to report abuse which occurs after a card has been approved.
 
The composition similarities here can no way be coincidental with your card (left), the other card (right) and the original stock image (below):
 


 
I do not feel that you have operated in good faith.  If there are considerations that I have unfairly overlooked that other artists would like to bring up here on the forum I am all ears.
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Reply #35 - Feb 19th, 2016, 5:33pm
 
Thanks Mindy, my fault for not checking first...there was certainly no intent to "copy",Why would I with a "Big Stock " picture? Yes I agree the reviewers do have an eagle eye, which is wonderful.
Why would I want to use an identical card to yours?
When I got the please edit I just assumed it was OK.probably being a bit lazy, and I was not feeling the best!( as I have explained to you).
I am sorry but it WAS coincidental, re everything including the stripes at the top.  
When looking at this card in its original form, it is feasible that one would add another stripe to add interest....and fill the gap at the top, as we did!  
I assume you won't believe this, but it is true.
I also did NOT check out your card, or I would have changed it radically, or not used it at all....it would have been very much in my interests to do this, wouldn't it? If you check out my store originality is my forte.
Just to clarify, does it mean the phrase "I nose ..." should never be used by anyone else?
I just feel you have been a very harsh with me.
This is not a subject that I would expose to public scrutiny, as it is an awful thing not to be believed, and have people think you are cheating in some way, but I think it should be aired, as it will clarify things a bit, and I feel I must defend myself and my integrity. It is not an easy job you have Mindy, I appreciate that.
I know rules are rules, but there are some grey areas in this issue which I feel are very unfortunate, and I am paying a too heavy price for it.
 
 
Sadly I doubt anyone will plough through all this to give an opinion!!
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Reply #36 - Feb 20th, 2016, 7:03am
 
May I just say that I personally am not concerned about the dog nose card. If Mary was inspired by my card I'm flattered Smiley  And, to me, Mary's card does seem to differ from mine in quite a few aspects. My card is all about the nose, where as Mary's card actually focuses on the eyes, with the dog's nose resting rather cutely on the word birthday, which is quite different to my design. I just wanted to say, in support of Mary, that I personally don't have a problem with it Smiley  
 
Mary, I had radiotherapy (we call it that in the UK) over ten years ago now, it was for breast cancer, everything turned out fine. I know what a difficult and tiring time it can be, I wish you a speedy recovery.
 
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Reply #37 - Feb 20th, 2016, 8:38am
 
Thank you so much Natalie for your kind supportive words. I am sorry about all this, and your generosity is a great comfort to me. I dare say GCU is doing their job looking after their artists, and it is a difficult job I would imagine. Yes my radiotherapy is for breast cancer too, and it is draining. At my advanced years, my prognosis is good, so I am not that worried about that aspect! Cheers Mary.
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Reply #38 - Feb 20th, 2016, 8:56am
 
You're very welcome Mary Smiley And, yes, I agree, GCU have a very difficult job, I don't envy them. Take care of yourself and keep designing, your cards are lovely Smiley
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Reply #39 - Feb 20th, 2016, 10:39am
 
Mindy, I have often wondered about artist using the same photos and images from BigStock in their designs and stopped making BigStock cards some time ago because of my concerns about originality.  It’s so much fun to cruse through all the great images there and find one that fits an idea I have about a card and many of the images inspire ideas for cards too.
 
For example, I was looking for a BigStock image for an auto mechanics card and came across this image that I thought was beautiful that was totally unrelated that inspired me to make this card about quitting smoking: http://www.greetingcarduniverse.com/encouragement-cards/quit-smoking/quit-smokin g-celebrate-each-smoke-1245024  I remember wondering at the time if someone else who is a smoker trying to quit and a nature nut like me would use the same image for the same subject.  Or, had someone else used this neat image for a different occasion and did it matter?
 
Perhaps you should consider removing images from BigStock once they are used for a card. That way whether someone used the same image for a card, whether it was intentional or coincidental (as Mary expressed), would not come up.  That way you would not have to make these difficult decisions.  It’s too easy for cards with the same BigStock image designed with the GCU tool to have the same or similar composition.
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Excellent idea Kathleen. It would certainly save a lot of heartache and confusion.
 In the "Nuts and Bolts" re Big Stock  
If the image has been used, ensure your design is significantly different and ideally, for another occasion. See this example of three cards using the same image, each a little different than the others, and each for a different occasion.
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Product ID 1191630 and 1192008
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Reply #41 - Feb 22nd, 2016, 11:00am
 
Thank you Natalie, once again for your kindness...yes I would love to be creating and submitting more cards, but I have been banned from doing this, hence my angst and sadness.I have had many PMs of support which is a comfort.
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Quote from Mary_140624 on Feb 20th, 2016, 1:25pm:
Excellent idea Kathleen. It would certainly save a lot of heartache and confusion.
In the "Nuts and Bolts" re Big Stock
If the image has been used, ensure your design is significantly different and ideally, for another occasion. See this example of three cards using the same image, each a little different than the others, and each for a different occasion.
As in examples

Product ID 1191630 and 1192008
 
On looking on the "Nuts and Bolts" re Big Stock, apart from me inadvertently doing the stripes at the top, My card was for a completely different category and occasion ( Invitation to an April Fool's day Anniversary Party) to Mindy's. But I still would not have used it if I had known it was used already.  
 
http://www.greetingcarduniverse.com/occasions/congratulations/cancersurvivortrea tment/portremovedmediportremoval/good-time-tropical-celebration-dogs-1421222
 
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Thank you for submitting your card for use on GreetingCardUniverse.com.
 
Artist ID: 140624
Product ID: 1421720
 
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Based on our review process your card has been: Approved.
 
Keywords:
Anniversary, April Fool's Day, Jack Russel terriers, sweet, funny, cocktails, flowers, humor. dogs. Invitation, Sun glasses, shades, red rims, hibiscus, ocean, garland. wedding anniversary party.  
 
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Collections » Off the Cuff Greetings
Invitations » Wedding Anniversary » Other
 
Please Note: Hi Mary - we don't see a call for this category, but we have requested a specific subcategory for this card and will move it if / when it is established. Thanks.  
 
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Reply #43 - Feb 23rd, 2016, 5:50am
 
Mary I am extremely sorry to hear that you are not allowed to add further cards to your store here at GCU, I do hope that they will reconsider.  
 
In the meantime, have you considered submitting your card designs to other Print on Demand companies, such as Zazzle etc? That way you can continue your designing. It would be such a shame if you stopped creating your designs.
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Reply #44 - Feb 23rd, 2016, 12:13pm
 
Thanks Natalie, yes I have a Zazzle store, but haven't put much up for a while.My sales at GCU have at last picked up after six years of contribution, so that is bitter sweet.Thanks for your kind interest.
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Reply #45 - Feb 23rd, 2016, 6:02pm
 
Quote from Kathleen_137290 on Feb 20th, 2016, 10:39am:
Mindy, I have often wondered about artist using the same photos and images from BigStock in their designs and stopped making BigStock cards some time ago because of my concerns about originality.  It’s so much fun to cruse through all the great images there and find one that fits an idea I have about a card and many of the images inspire ideas for cards too.

For example, I was looking for a BigStock image for an auto mechanics card and came across this image that I thought was beautiful that was totally unrelated that inspired me to make this card about quitting smoking: http://www.greetingcarduniverse.com/encouragement-cards/quit-smoking/quit-smokin g-celebrate-each-smoke-1245024  I remember wondering at the time if someone else who is a smoker trying to quit and a nature nut like me would use the same image for the same subject.  Or, had someone else used this neat image for a different occasion and did it matter?

Perhaps you should consider removing images from BigStock once they are used for a card. That way whether someone used the same image for a card, whether it was intentional or coincidental (as Mary expressed), would not come up.  That way you would not have to make these difficult decisions.  It’s too easy for cards with the same BigStock image designed with the GCU tool to have the same or similar composition.

 
As Mary has shared we have specified in the Nuts & Bolts tips here:
http://gcucommunity.com/2014/03/12/nuts-and-bolts-blast-from-the-past-bigstock-g uidelines/
 
"Also research the stock cards already created to take note of stock images that have already been used in the same way/occasion. If the image has been used, ensure your design is significantly different and ideally, for another occasion. See this example of three cards using the same image, each a little different than the others, and each for a different occasion."
 
No need to take these great images offline after a single use, other artists may have a totally different idea for the image.  Artists just need to take a little extra time to see what is being used and how before proceeding with their design.  This is not much different than designing a card from scratch.
 
You can do a simple onsite search to see if the image you'd like to use is being used already, and how.  For example search for "cuff gray kitten" with "cuff" identifying all of the cards bigstock cards as they are required to be in the "Off the Cuff" category.
 
This would result in:
http://shop.greetingcarduniverse.com/search#w=cuff%20gray%20kitten
 
After seeing what is in use you can hen decide to use the same image in a different way or choose a different image.
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Reply #46 - Feb 23rd, 2016, 6:16pm
 
Quote from Mary_140624 on Feb 19th, 2016, 5:33pm:
Thanks Mindy, my fault for not checking first...there was certainly no intent to "copy",Why would I with a "Big Stock " picture? Yes I agree the reviewers do have an eagle eye, which is wonderful.
Why would I want to use an identical card to yours?
When I got the please edit I just assumed it was OK.probably being a bit lazy, and I was not feeling the best!( as I have explained to you).
I am sorry but it WAS coincidental, re everything including the stripes at the top.
When looking at this card in its original form, it is feasible that one would add another stripe to add interest....and fill the gap at the top, as we did!
I assume you won't believe this, but it is true.
I also did NOT check out your card, or I would have changed it radically, or not used it at all....it would have been very much in my interests to do this, wouldn't it? If you check out my store originality is my forte.
Just to clarify, does it mean the phrase "I nose ..." should never be used by anyone else?
I just feel you have been a very harsh with me.
This is not a subject that I would expose to public scrutiny, as it is an awful thing not to be believed, and have people think you are cheating in some way, but I think it should be aired, as it will clarify things a bit, and I feel I must defend myself and my integrity. It is not an easy job you have Mindy, I appreciate that.
I know rules are rules, but there are some grey areas in this issue which I feel are very unfortunate, and I am paying a too heavy price for it.

Sadly I doubt anyone will plough through all this to give an opinion!!

 
Mary, we are very sorry about the poor timing and additional worry and stress this has caused you.  We too preferred this as a private conversation via email until your forum posts.  But yes, artists will probably glean much from this conversation so thank you for your transparency.  
 
We hold firmly in our decision to curtail any new submissions to your store with the exception of custom design requests based on existing cards.  Whether intentional or unintentional misuse by an artist, GCU stands by our policy and guidelines.  
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Reply #47 - Feb 26th, 2016, 6:59pm
 
I really need some help putting my greeting cards to public
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Quote from Teresa_349610 on Feb 26th, 2016, 6:59pm:
I really need some help putting my greeting cards to public

 
Hi Teresa, please look for an email from me today.
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